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Radio 5 Live,08 May 2026,40 mins
Available for over a year
What’s it really like trying to stop Wayne Rooney at his peak? And how did it go when he becomes your teammate and then your boss? Phil Jagielka explains exactly what went on when he joined Wayne at Derby County during one of their most tumultuous periods, working under him as a colleague while the club battled shocking off-field issues, points deductions and constant uncertainty. From rivals to teammates for club and country, Wayne and Phil lift the lid on life inside shared dressing rooms, and what Wayne is really like up close: the competitor, the leader, and the personality behind the headlines. They also reveal which England defenders they believe should make it to the World Cup.
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